Butch Harmon & Brandt Snedeker on Playing Augusta
Butch Harmon talks to 7-time PGA Tour winner Brandt Snedeker about his game-plan for Augusta, including how he plans to tackle the illusive Amen Corner.
Released on 4/7/2015
|Starring:||Butch Harmon and Brandt Snedeker|
So Brandt, let's talk about Amen Corner.
Masters coming up next week.
Let's go with 11.
You hit a good drive, you're at the top of the hill.
Interesting because depending on where
the tees are and the wind,
you could have anywheres from what, 215 to 175 yards.
I heard Ben Hogan say once that no matter
where the pin was, he never shot at it.
He always tried to put it on the right side of the green.
What's your philosophy for playing 11?
You know, 11's probably the scariest second shot
at Augusta National, just because there's so much trouble
obviously on the left side of the pond.
The right side's obviously where you need to miss it,
but it's not a give me up and down,
and you're coming out of the mid to long iron,
so it's a very, very difficult shot.
So my whole thought process at that hole
is there's a little front right corner of the green,
it's kind of where I'm aiming every time.
Trying to obviously avoid anything going left there.
Left is dead.
Alright, let's see you hit the shot.
What do you figure we got here?
I was trying to hit a nice, what I call my stock shot.
Nice straight to a little turnover draw
on the front right edge of the green.
I think the best thing you said was
you don't even look at the flags.
Your target is that right part of the green,
and that's where you're trying to put the ball,
and you're gonna hit the shape shot to get it there.
In my mind right now I'm set at the very right of the green.
There's actually a pine tree behind the back right bunker
that I always look at as kind of my target.
And then just really focus on making sure
I get through the golf ball.
Oh, that would've been perfect.
Just at the right edge, falling to the left
puts you on the green.
So now we've parted 11.
We're walking up to the 12th tee.
I've heard people say all the time
that the wind swirls around down on 12.
So now it's probably the hardest 150 yard hole
you could ever play.
Jack Nicklaus says he's never shot at a flag.
He shoots in the middle of the green.
When you're on 12, what is your mindset?
It changes every time I'm on it.
It's such a difficult hole.
That's why it's such a great par three
because you only have a front left pin
where you've got a perfect number for a pitching wedge,
135 yards that baits you into going after it,
and you realize if you miss it three yards right
of your target there you go in the water.
The more risk you take on there
you're bringing a lot more big numbers.
That's why Jack was so smart by saying
there's actually the front left bunker,
corner of the front left bunker
is right in the middle of the green, and that's your target.
You're trying to hit it right there.
That gives you the most depth to work with.
You kinda forget about the pin there.
As my one little confidence booster,
I've always looked at that 11 flag
right before I pull the trigger.
See what that wind's doing.
That's the best thing I've ever seen.
Our best way of judging the wind there.
So what are you gonna hit there--
I've got an eight iron.
[Butch] Eight iron?
You're just gonna try and hit it in--
Try and hit a little 3/4 cut shot
right at the front left center of the green,
right over the middle of that bunker.
Alright, let's see it.
Okay, open the club face up a little bit,
just swing along my body line.
That was perfect.
I tell you what, it's a lot easier
talking about that shot here on our range
than it is standing on that tee on Sunday--
You know what's funny?
It's a lot easier on Wednesday afternoon
than it is on Thursday afternoon as well either.
That first go on 12 is kind of a guinea pig,
so you try to take every piece of advantage you can get,
every advantage you can get there,
and being second or third up at 12 in Augusta's
not a bad thing to have happen.
Such a great par three.
It is, you know.
It's really probably one of the best designed par threes
ever played because it brings so many numbers into play.
I've seen guys make seven and eights there.
I've seen guys make twos there.
I even played with Harris English last year
in a practice round, he made a one there.
I know of a guy who made a one there.
My dad made one there.
Did he really?
It's pretty cool, yeah.
Okay, we've been through 11 and 12.
Now we've come to 13.
13 is interesting because it's a very short par five
by modern day's links.
It's barely over 500 yards.
Now some people like to play a three wood off the tee.
Some people like to play a driver.
What is your choice?
Well 'cause I like to draw it,
sometimes I like being aggressive with a driver.
Most of the time it's a three wood hole.
With a three wood I have a much bigger fairway
to hit it into and so I can hit
a nice solid turn-in three wood,
have probably 210 in from there.
If I don't pull it off, I kinda hang it out to right.
It's a three-shot hole.
But I hit it just right, I get it up there
where it's supposed to be,
and have a long iron to hybrid in from there.
And the hole is a perfect shape for you
because you like a little right to left draw.
So you just set up and hit your stock three wood.
[Brandt] Yeah, let's see if I can pull one off.
[Butch] Oh, that'd be perfect right there.
Can we bottle that?
I don't want to waste it today,
but that was the right feeling.
Alright, so now we're down there in the fairway.
Now comes I think, one of the most interesting
second shots in golf to a green that sits
and runs away from you to the right.
The distance to the front left corner
versus the back right can be 20 yards.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Just 'cause of the way the green sits there.
But yet, you're standing there with a ball above your feet,
which is gonna cause a hook.
So your tendency is you want to aim out to the right
'cause you think you're gonna draw it.
If you don't draw it, that thing hangs out there.
It's goin' in the creek.
Sometimes you get suckered into saying,
well I only have 192 yards to the front edge.
Only that front edge may be six yards wide
and you see the green.
The green from where you're looking
looks like it's 30 yards wide.
It's a great design, the fact that you know,
the actual front of the green's probably 20 yards on,
so you really have 14 to the front,
and that's the width of the green.
You told me Tom Watson gave you a great tip
for hitting these balls with the ball above your feet,
especially on that hole.
What was that?
So I play a practice round with Tom,
and he was really gracious.
I sat there and asked him.
I was like, what would you do on 13 out of the fairway
'cause I struggle making sure that ball turns over
without over-cooking it.
He gave me a great tip.
It's just somethin' really easy to do in your set up
when you're getting over to make sure that
that ball will turn over every time.
That is what I wasn't realizing is
when that ball's above my feet,
my hand's are getting too high
because I wasn't adjusting for my normal position
because the ball was much more above my feet.
When I got my hands a little bit lower,
obviously it made the club bottom out
at the right angle every time.
The ball turned over a little bit easier,
and I stopped hangin' 'em out.
Let me see your natural set up
where your hands would be a little higher.
So that's kinda how you would set up.
So when you get there with a ball above your feet,
you drop your hands down a little.
Little bit more like that.
[Butch] I like that.
[Brandt] And sure enough, there's a nice little draw.
You know what I like about that is you know exactly
what that ball is gonna do.
I think it's pretty interesting.
We've talked about three of the most famous holes in golf,
Amen Corner at Augusta National,
11, 12, and 13.
You're one of the best players in the world
and you haven't once talked about shootin' at a flag.
I think that's what makes Augusta so fantastic.
There's a reason why Jack Nicklaus
won so many majors there, and won so many Masters
is because he knew the art of putting the ball
in the middle of the green and steering away from trouble.
Well I love your game plan, Brandt.
Augusta National's a special place.
Amen Corner is what it's all about.
I know you know you're ready.
I know you're ready.
Let's go to Augusta and have a chance
to put that green jacket on, my man.
Yeah, thanks a lot, Butchy.
I appreciate it buddy. Good work.